The easiest part of being an All Black is becoming an All Black.

Campbell Johnstone played for the Crusaders in 2004 and for the All Blacks in 2005. In 2023, he came out as the first openly gay All Black and made headlines around the world.

In this episode, Campbell talks about:

• The surprising way his older brother reacted when he came out 

• How he let himself down in his goal to become an All Black

• The remarkable support he received from the rugby community